Pr1me the new shins?

[Tr0uble]

In the previous pages, prime had a different perspective on what was considered a sabo. Which one of the admins is at fault here then?

Myst, if you were to judge a scenario where someone BS'd you WHICH CHANGES THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME, would that be considered a dodge on said person?

Brat declaring she was going Afk and then actually going Afk for 5-7min clearly changed the outcome of the game previous to me bs'ing her. Pr1me judged as dodge on her, which I believe is correct. The fact that you're still holding onto that game obviously means you should have asked Mystery to judge it. You keep referring to me bs'ing and it's dodge on me. I personally don't care, but you're neglecting the fact that she had an emo moment and went afk b/c she was angry for w/e reason. I don't see how pr1me is at fault?

Every situation is going to be different and different people will have different opinions and interpretations. You have only yourself to blame by not asking another judge.

I'm not trying to get you a dodge, I honestly don't care about the result of that game anymore. I was just using this game as an example of how pr1me judges games and see his point of view.

So basically if you DECLARE that you will go afk, that is an automatic DQ but if you don't say anything in chat but remain inactive (not making tanks, mid gets demolished, you lose), that is not a DQ because no one can really know for sure whether the player went afk or not.

Ok, I see. My bad <3

As far as someone declaring they're going afk, basically sabotaging, that's always been dodge. The only way to see if someone truly goes afk, either apm drops or they're not doing anything in game, but they hold their apm by hotkeying a building and continually pushing that key, you can only tell my BWLauncher. I think Pr1me should have said dodge on brat for unvision + going afk and openly admitting she was going afk, not the fact that b/c she bs'd after I did.

[Pr1meIVI]

This shit doesn't happen everyday but it happens, and it seems like nothing can be done about it. So my suggestion to you Law is to either play games without prime, or stop playing zc. Or be like me and just stop caring, and play for the hell of it.

Why are you still talking? "be like me and just stop caring"

You speak in generalization, and I didn't whisper shit.

Brat's scenario; unvisioning trouble, thus bsing right after MM = sabotage = DODGE

Killer scenario's; you two still playing in games longer than 20 minutes, even though killer doesnt build base basic doesnt hold as an account in sabotaging, kill bsed you when game was over. 

IF someone sabo's when the outcome isn't going to change (broken middle/half ass bases/mains gones/etc) it doesn't even matter.  You're justification is as bad as brat and law, again get your facts straight, and understand the scenario before coming to a judgement.

EX: trippy kyung demure vs 3oo logic stronger = just because people dont build standard bases is an auto-sabo? it took almost 30 minutes to beat them according to the replay.

Again, like I said, all these things you bring up are so simple to undestand and realize yet uou try bring it up to your favor.  Why couldn't you have thought of that yourself after the 3rd time killer wasn't giving 100% playing with you? It took you 5 times to figure it out killer was not going to play extensively by your side? It took me 1 game with brat and law to understand they were going to sabo because it was an easy decision, don't play with them.  5 times PH, 5 times. Think on your own.

Rofl, you did whisper me, I wouldn't make this shit up.

In Brat's scenario, she never BS'd trouble, I even told you after I watched rep. It was tr0uble who BS'd her and yet he didn't receive dodge.

So basically according to you, a sabo is only considered a dodge when the outcome DOES change from that sabo. But who's to judge which scenarios are considered outcome-changing or not? You? When my arbs die from killer's turrets when they move out for a MM recall because he unallied, is that scenario not considered game-changing? When someone builds a perfect terran base with absolutely no tanks, who's to judge whether he really fucked up on accident or simply decided not to make tanks in order to sabo? Stop talking out of your ass, you look stupid trying to justify yourself.

I don't care if it was the 3rd or the 10th time in a row Killer sabos me in a game. If you want this league to run in the fairest form possible, you should at least try to implement rules so that it won't limit players from being able to play games in this league. Just because Killer saboed me the previous 4 games, does that justify his 5th? Think as an admin please.

Did I say BRAT was the one who BS'ed? No, find it in that sentence where I refered to Brat bsing trouble after unvisioning, fucking goof.

So according to me that is correct, did you're arbs do anything? No.  Killer killed your arbs, ok, do something else? Does someone need to hold your hand and guide to do a 2nd attack? Did you bother to put it as a game dispute and attach a replay of Killer doing this? No, not ONCE did you post a game dispute on the thread of Killer sabotaging you 5 times so according to me, and all the other admins/judges, you ARE talking out of you're ass, replay or no proof, once again you're being a goof.

What are you talking about? Limit players from playing in this league? Everyone is welcomed, everyone has a choice if they want to play or not. Everyone has a choice if they want to report their games or not.  As far as I'm concerned this thread has brought rise and attention and focus to more judges, which Trouble has been appointed to now.  So if there is a problem with a game, you now have myself, thunder[fdu], and trouble.  Please report any games you wish to dispute of a sabotage/dodge/bs on game dispute thread under game report.

Thanks.

Are you retarded or something? I didn't post replays on dispute because I asked you after the game whether bsing is considered a sabo, and you said something along the lines of, "no, join games at your own discretion." That in a sense is limiting players in playing legitimate games where ppl don't sabo each other.

"Killer killed your arbs, ok, do something else? Does someone need to hold your hand and guide to do a 2nd attack?"

You're basically telling me to suck it up when someone BSes me and try other ways to win? You're a fucking moron. You can't even admit your own mistakes and make yourself look even more stupid post after post. Peace

What mistake? There's 2 other judges/admins besides me? You're basically telling me I'm the only person who runs this league, smart ass. What I basically said was you stayed in the game and didn't bother report where it would be visible to ALL judges/admins, how hard is that to understand?! YET you decide to stay in ALL 5 games, why? I don't know. Do you not understand something, read what I just said, where did I tell you to suck it up? You're talking about yourself, YOU SUCKED IT UP, YOU PLAYED THE GAME, YOU DIDN'T REPORT.  TELL ME WHERE DO YOU FIND ME IN THAT GAME, PLEASE PRINCEHARRY, PLEASE TELL ME.

Yeah I'm making myself stupid, that's an awesome way to back up your argument, you're not helping your cause at all. Like seriously, how many times/examples/explanations do you need to get through to your head?

The point of this all; YOU didn't bother to ask another judge/admin yet alone post on the game dispute, you couldn't think for yourself and is as closed minded as brat.

Alright, you just told me to dispute the game to other admins because you're not the only judge. Therefore it is logical to assume that rules are varied among admins. You have no problem of this?

Close minded? Lmfao. YOU were the one who told me that a BS is not considered DQ and yet, I'm the close minded one because I assumed rules were objective among admins? Lol.

I have no problem with what Quinn, Andy, and Jon decide.  You can ask them for anything if you don't want to ask me, simple.

Have fun and enjoy the league.

Another way of saying, "I fucked up, ask other admins next time."

Peace

Lol, seems like you are still closed minded and which to only see things your way.  But honestly, you're making things more complicated as it is, there are things in this league that are discussed that aren't exposed to the league so don't think I always make all these decisions on my own.

[CoR[BF]]

This shit doesn't happen everyday but it happens, and it seems like nothing can be done about it. So my suggestion to you Law is to either play games without prime, or stop playing zc. Or be like me and just stop caring, and play for the hell of it.

Why are you still talking? "be like me and just stop caring"

You speak in generalization, and I didn't whisper shit.

Brat's scenario; unvisioning trouble, thus bsing right after MM = sabotage = DODGE

Killer scenario's; you two still playing in games longer than 20 minutes, even though killer doesnt build base basic doesnt hold as an account in sabotaging, kill bsed you when game was over. 

IF someone sabo's when the outcome isn't going to change (broken middle/half ass bases/mains gones/etc) it doesn't even matter.  You're justification is as bad as brat and law, again get your facts straight, and understand the scenario before coming to a judgement.

EX: trippy kyung demure vs 3oo logic stronger = just because people dont build standard bases is an auto-sabo? it took almost 30 minutes to beat them according to the replay.

Again, like I said, all these things you bring up are so simple to undestand and realize yet uou try bring it up to your favor.  Why couldn't you have thought of that yourself after the 3rd time killer wasn't giving 100% playing with you? It took you 5 times to figure it out killer was not going to play extensively by your side? It took me 1 game with brat and law to understand they were going to sabo because it was an easy decision, don't play with them.  5 times PH, 5 times. Think on your own.

Rofl, you did whisper me, I wouldn't make this shit up.

Are you retarded or something? I didn't post replays on dispute because I asked you after the game whether bsing is considered a sabo, and you said something along the lines of, "no, join games at your own discretion." That in a sense is limiting players in playing legitimate games where ppl don't sabo each other.

"Killer killed your arbs, ok, do something else? Does someone need to hold your hand and guide to do a 2nd attack?"

You're basically telling me to suck it up when someone BSes me and try other ways to win? You're a fucking moron. You can't even admit your own mistakes and make yourself look even more stupid post after post. Peace

This shit doesn't happen everyday but it happens, and it seems like nothing can be done about it. So my suggestion to you Law is to either play games without prime, or stop playing zc. Or be like me and just stop caring, and play for the hell of it.

Why are you still talking? "be like me and just stop caring"

You speak in generalization, and I didn't whisper shit.

Brat's scenario; unvisioning trouble, thus bsing right after MM = sabotage = DODGE

Killer scenario's; you two still playing in games longer than 20 minutes, even though killer doesnt build base basic doesnt hold as an account in sabotaging, kill bsed you when game was over. 

IF someone sabo's when the outcome isn't going to change (broken middle/half ass bases/mains gones/etc) it doesn't even matter.  You're justification is as bad as brat and law, again get your facts straight, and understand the scenario before coming to a judgement.

EX: trippy kyung demure vs 3oo logic stronger = just because people dont build standard bases is an auto-sabo? it took almost 30 minutes to beat them according to the replay.

Again, like I said, all these things you bring up are so simple to undestand and realize yet uou try bring it up to your favor.  Why couldn't you have thought of that yourself after the 3rd time killer wasn't giving 100% playing with you? It took you 5 times to figure it out killer was not going to play extensively by your side? It took me 1 game with brat and law to understand they were going to sabo because it was an easy decision, don't play with them.  5 times PH, 5 times. Think on your own.

Rofl, you did whisper me, I wouldn't make this shit up.

In Brat's scenario, she never BS'd trouble, I even told you after I watched rep. It was tr0uble who BS'd her and yet he didn't receive dodge.

So basically according to you, a sabo is only considered a dodge when the outcome DOES change from that sabo. But who's to judge which scenarios are considered outcome-changing or not? You? When my arbs die from killer's turrets when they move out for a MM recall because he unallied, is that scenario not considered game-changing? When someone builds a perfect terran base with absolutely no tanks, who's to judge whether he really fucked up on accident or simply decided not to make tanks in order to sabo? Stop talking out of your ass, you look stupid trying to justify yourself.

I don't care if it was the 3rd or the 10th time in a row Killer sabos me in a game. If you want this league to run in the fairest form possible, you should at least try to implement rules so that it won't limit players from being able to play games in this league. Just because Killer saboed me the previous 4 games, does that justify his 5th? Think as an admin please.

Did I say BRAT was the one who BS'ed? No, find it in that sentence where I refered to Brat bsing trouble after unvisioning, fucking goof.

So according to me that is correct, did you're arbs do anything? No.  Killer killed your arbs, ok, do something else? Does someone need to hold your hand and guide to do a 2nd attack? Did you bother to put it as a game dispute and attach a replay of Killer doing this? No, not ONCE did you post a game dispute on the thread of Killer sabotaging you 5 times so according to me, and all the other admins/judges, you ARE talking out of you're ass, replay or no proof, once again you're being a goof.

What are you talking about? Limit players from playing in this league? Everyone is welcomed, everyone has a choice if they want to play or not. Everyone has a choice if they want to report their games or not.  As far as I'm concerned this thread has brought rise and attention and focus to more judges, which Trouble has been appointed to now.  So if there is a problem with a game, you now have myself, thunder[fdu], and trouble.  Please report any games you wish to dispute of a sabotage/dodge/bs on game dispute thread under game report.

Thanks.

Are you retarded or something? I didn't post replays on dispute because I asked you after the game whether bsing is considered a sabo, and you said something along the lines of, "no, join games at your own discretion." That in a sense is limiting players in playing legitimate games where ppl don't sabo each other.

"Killer killed your arbs, ok, do something else? Does someone need to hold your hand and guide to do a 2nd attack?"

You're basically telling me to suck it up when someone BSes me and try other ways to win? You're a fucking moron. You can't even admit your own mistakes and make yourself look even more stupid post after post. Peace

What mistake? There's 2 other judges/admins besides me? You're basically telling me I'm the only person who runs this league, smart ass. What I basically said was you stayed in the game and didn't bother report where it would be visible to ALL judges/admins, how hard is that to understand?! YET you decide to stay in ALL 5 games, why? I don't know. Do you not understand something, read what I just said, where did I tell you to suck it up? You're talking about yourself, YOU SUCKED IT UP, YOU PLAYED THE GAME, YOU DIDN'T REPORT.  TELL ME WHERE DO YOU FIND ME IN THAT GAME, PLEASE PRINCEHARRY, PLEASE TELL ME.

Yeah I'm making myself stupid, that's an awesome way to back up your argument, you're not helping your cause at all. Like seriously, how many times/examples/explanations do you need to get through to your head?

The point of this all; YOU didn't bother to ask another judge/admin yet alone post on the game dispute, you couldn't think for yourself and is as closed minded as brat.

Alright, you just told me to dispute the game to other admins because you're not the only judge. Therefore it is logical to assume that rules are varied among admins. You have no problem of this?

Close minded? Lmfao. YOU were the one who told me that a BS is not considered DQ and yet, I'm the close minded one because I assumed rules were objective among admins? Lol.

I have no problem with what Quinn, Andy, and Jon decide.  You can ask them for anything if you don't want to ask me, simple.

Have fun and enjoy the league.

Another way of saying, "I fucked up, ask other admins next time."

Peace

In the previous pages, prime had a different perspective on what was considered a sabo. Which one of the admins is at fault here then?

Myst, if you were to judge a scenario where someone BS'd you WHICH CHANGES THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME, would that be considered a dodge on said person?

Brat declaring she was going Afk and then actually going Afk for 5-7min clearly changed the outcome of the game previous to me bs'ing her. Pr1me judged as dodge on her, which I believe is correct. The fact that you're still holding onto that game obviously means you should have asked Mystery to judge it. You keep referring to me bs'ing and it's dodge on me. I personally don't care, but you're neglecting the fact that she had an emo moment and went afk b/c she was angry for w/e reason. I don't see how pr1me is at fault?

Every situation is going to be different and different people will have different opinions and interpretations. You have only yourself to blame by not asking another judge.

I'm not trying to get you a dodge, I honestly don't care about the result of that game anymore. I was just using this game as an example of how pr1me judges games and see his point of view.

So basically if you DECLARE that you will go afk, that is an automatic DQ but if you don't say anything in chat but remain inactive (not making tanks, mid gets demolished, you lose), that is not a DQ because no one can really know for sure whether the player went afk or not.

BWCHART/WLAUNCHER - me and andy have these programs to detect whether someone is afk.

What if someone deliberately made pointless actions to keep his APM constant? Is this the part where you say "get it judged by another admin"?

It's not hard to read BWCHART/WLAUNCHER, it tells you their actions, whether or not they are making pointless actions, it will read if they choose larva, making starports, holding down a hotkey, etc.

In the previous pages, prime had a different perspective on what was considered a sabo. Which one of the admins is at fault here then?

Myst, if you were to judge a scenario where someone BS'd you WHICH CHANGES THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME, would that be considered a dodge on said person?

Brat declaring she was going Afk and then actually going Afk for 5-7min clearly changed the outcome of the game previous to me bs'ing her. Pr1me judged as dodge on her, which I believe is correct. The fact that you're still holding onto that game obviously means you should have asked Mystery to judge it. You keep referring to me bs'ing and it's dodge on me. I personally don't care, but you're neglecting the fact that she had an emo moment and went afk b/c she was angry for w/e reason. I don't see how pr1me is at fault?

Every situation is going to be different and different people will have different opinions and interpretations. You have only yourself to blame by not asking another judge.

I'm not trying to get you a dodge, I honestly don't care about the result of that game anymore. I was just using this game as an example of how pr1me judges games and see his point of view.

So basically if you DECLARE that you will go afk, that is an automatic DQ but if you don't say anything in chat but remain inactive (not making tanks, mid gets demolished, you lose), that is not a DQ because no one can really know for sure whether the player went afk or not.

BWCHART/WLAUNCHER - me and andy have these programs to detect whether someone is afk.

What if someone deliberately made pointless actions to keep his APM constant? Is this the part where you say "get it judged by another admin"?

It's not hard to read BWCHART/WLAUNCHER, it tells you their actions, whether or not they are making pointless actions, it will read if they choose larva, making starports, holding down a hotkey, etc.

This shit doesn't happen everyday but it happens, and it seems like nothing can be done about it. So my suggestion to you Law is to either play games without prime, or stop playing zc. Or be like me and just stop caring, and play for the hell of it.

Why are you still talking? "be like me and just stop caring"

You speak in generalization, and I didn't whisper shit.

Brat's scenario; unvisioning trouble, thus bsing right after MM = sabotage = DODGE

Killer scenario's; you two still playing in games longer than 20 minutes, even though killer doesnt build base basic doesnt hold as an account in sabotaging, kill bsed you when game was over. 

IF someone sabo's when the outcome isn't going to change (broken middle/half ass bases/mains gones/etc) it doesn't even matter.  You're justification is as bad as brat and law, again get your facts straight, and understand the scenario before coming to a judgement.

EX: trippy kyung demure vs 3oo logic stronger = just because people dont build standard bases is an auto-sabo? it took almost 30 minutes to beat them according to the replay.

Again, like I said, all these things you bring up are so simple to undestand and realize yet uou try bring it up to your favor.  Why couldn't you have thought of that yourself after the 3rd time killer wasn't giving 100% playing with you? It took you 5 times to figure it out killer was not going to play extensively by your side? It took me 1 game with brat and law to understand they were going to sabo because it was an easy decision, don't play with them.  5 times PH, 5 times. Think on your own.

Rofl, you did whisper me, I wouldn't make this shit up.

In Brat's scenario, she never BS'd trouble, I even told you after I watched rep. It was tr0uble who BS'd her and yet he didn't receive dodge.

So basically according to you, a sabo is only considered a dodge when the outcome DOES change from that sabo. But who's to judge which scenarios are considered outcome-changing or not? You? When my arbs die from killer's turrets when they move out for a MM recall because he unallied, is that scenario not considered game-changing? When someone builds a perfect terran base with absolutely no tanks, who's to judge whether he really fucked up on accident or simply decided not to make tanks in order to sabo? Stop talking out of your ass, you look stupid trying to justify yourself.

I don't care if it was the 3rd or the 10th time in a row Killer sabos me in a game. If you want this league to run in the fairest form possible, you should at least try to implement rules so that it won't limit players from being able to play games in this league. Just because Killer saboed me the previous 4 games, does that justify his 5th? Think as an admin please.

Did I say BRAT was the one who BS'ed? No, find it in that sentence where I refered to Brat bsing trouble after unvisioning, fucking goof.

So according to me that is correct, did you're arbs do anything? No.  Killer killed your arbs, ok, do something else? Does someone need to hold your hand and guide to do a 2nd attack? Did you bother to put it as a game dispute and attach a replay of Killer doing this? No, not ONCE did you post a game dispute on the thread of Killer sabotaging you 5 times so according to me, and all the other admins/judges, you ARE talking out of you're ass, replay or no proof, once again you're being a goof.

I wonder how many quotes are there? i tried posting but only 2000 cahracters max lol HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!!!!
By the way, i commend Prime and Myst for holding ZC together, and everybody else who contributed to making this a fun year!!! i will be drunk by 3am Pacific Standard time with a bottle of Green Label, gotta work part time gig bouncing for a casino 4PM-2AM, i hope i do get to tazer someone tonight and pretend im tazing brat!!!!

[CoR[BF]]

I wonder how many quotes was that........anyways HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!, by the way i commend prime and mystery for a good job this year holding zc together.......no matter how many times we threw bullshit at them they still did what they were suppose to do good job and happy new year!!!!!!!!

[thunder]

i get the last word.

ez

[pacman]

i get the last word.

ez

Think Again chink ! HAPPY NEW YEARS GUYS && THIS WAS THE BEST THREAD EVER !
THANK YOU PR1ME AND MYST FOR KEEPING ZC ALIVE !

ARIE HAPPY NEW YEARS !!!!

[law[bf]]

Happy new year, thx u pr1me, myst, killer, arie, atetanka, ph, trouble, tech, orange, iwin, maxine, brat, pacman, frozen, johnnycage, trippy, ghostprince, ewie, cor, joe, falcon, megix and many others to keep zc alive.

Happy new year zc community

[StronGer]

Happy new year, thx u pr1me, myst, killer, arie, atetanka, ph, trouble, tech, orange, iwin, maxine, brat, pacman, frozen, johnnycage, trippy, ghostprince, ewie, cor, joe, falcon, megix and many others to keep zc alive.

Happy new year zc community

mistaken.

[thunder]

happy new year~

[killer]

This is the problem. As a judge. People will always bitch. Everyone won't be happy obviously. Judging fair is judging fair I tried to be fair as a zct admin. if you honestly go against people like law or jc that has nothing else better to do they will blow it up and a big deal over nothing regardless of being honest or not cuz they are like that. As far as sabo. How can u blame prime for anything what can he do? He said the best answer he could IMO U PLAY WITH WHO U WANT TO. What could he possibly do? Nobody knows who Sabos or genuinely makes mistakes ectect. People take this game more seriously than others. There's no answer to sabo no solution for it u just blame first person that comes to mind.

As far as prime being admin n in control blahblah he deserves a medal for putting up with half of you cuz realy half of you are just too much. Prime does great with scoring. Never seen him judge. Not saying this cuz he's my friend he is doing a great job and if zcl didn't exist zc would be significantly more shitty. The problem is. NOBODY admits defeat. Ic games where Terran base holding on by few buildings and arguments are made for against it. Another thing. People are pulling, alot of games drop so there's more judging. In zct I don't remember judging many games. I see law bitch bout a game every 2 days. If it was up to me. Jc/law would never be allowed anywhere cuz to annoying. Brat is fine sometimes but sabos alot. U give me reasons to sabo u i won't try as hard sry but it's the truth. I would NOT put my time in for half of u so everyone should be happy for what prime has done. Love or hate prime I'd say it for whomever. Just nobody did what he did so... Play the game as it is u only have a number of people who play 1 or 2 will usually ruin the game but doesn't necessarily make it anyone's fault and primes last one to play. Zct ppl were more mature less annoying better and was more fun to play with I think. That's why judging wasn't much of a problem. Most the better ppl stop playing much and although several rly good ppl like tech kyo lisa and other I forget got rly good. Alot of ppl got mad and just annoying as hell. Would be a little until sc is rly fun with less problems imo. Need better more people. No alcohols no annoying people. Admins doing better than that thought would especially dealing without they are dealing with

Don't let yan win pls.. !!!

[ATETANKA]

This is the problem. As a judge. People will always bitch. Everyone won't be happy obviously. Judging fair is judging fair I tried to be fair as a zct admin. if you honestly go against people like law or jc that has nothing else better to do they will blow it up and a big deal over nothing regardless of being honest or not cuz they are like that. As far as sabo. How can u blame prime for anything what can he do? He said the best answer he could IMO U PLAY WITH WHO U WANT TO. What could he possibly do? Nobody knows who Sabos or genuinely makes mistakes ectect. People take this game more seriously than others. There's no answer to sabo no solution for it u just blame first person that comes to mind.

As far as prime being admin n in control blahblah he deserves a medal for putting up with half of you cuz realy half of you are just too much. Prime does great with scoring. Never seen him judge. Not saying this cuz he's my friend he is doing a great job and if zcl didn't exist zc would be significantly more shitty. The problem is. NOBODY admits defeat. Ic games where Terran base holding on by few buildings and arguments are made for against it. Another thing. People are pulling, alot of games drop so there's more judging. In zct I don't remember judging many games. I see law bitch bout a game every 2 days. If it was up to me. Jc/law would never be allowed anywhere cuz to annoying. Brat is fine sometimes but sabos alot. U give me reasons to sabo u i won't try as hard sry but it's the truth. I would NOT put my time in for half of u so everyone should be happy for what prime has done. Love or hate prime I'd say it for whomever. Just nobody did what he did so... Play the game as it is u only have a number of people who play 1 or 2 will usually ruin the game but doesn't necessarily make it anyone's fault and primes last one to play. Zct ppl were more mature less annoying better and was more fun to play with I think. That's why judging wasn't much of a problem. Most the better ppl stop playing much and although several rly good ppl like tech kyo lisa and other I forget got rly good. Alot of ppl got mad and just annoying as hell. Would be a little until sc is rly fun with less problems imo. Need better more people. No alcohols no annoying people. Admins doing better than that thought would especially dealing without they are dealing with

Don't let yan win pls.. !!!

Nice wall of text

[killer]

Dont care! Wasn't for you! Ugly fat bitch!

Your opinion means nothing tanka there's a reason anyone above goa level hates u. U think I care at all wut u say I laugh everytime l o l I o ol I l go ban me some more I'll to cry in my corner cuz u have Indian Internet so badass. Lol so sad bah no wonder why everyone hate u kid. Go waste ur time googling more pictures that aren't funny cuz no life cute. Lemme repeat the YOURMAD for you three hundred times while I laugh at how pathetic u are

Lol hacking smurfing chicks need to learn their role

[ATETANKA]

[killer]

kkk home now byebye tanka pro stud king of worlddddddd <33

[soserial]

This is the problem. As a judge. People will always bitch. Everyone won't be happy obviously. Judging fair is judging fair I tried to be fair as a zct admin. if you honestly go against people like law or jc that has nothing else better to do they will blow it up and a big deal over nothing regardless of being honest or not cuz they are like that. As far as sabo. How can u blame prime for anything what can he do? He said the best answer he could IMO U PLAY WITH WHO U WANT TO. What could he possibly do? Nobody knows who Sabos or genuinely makes mistakes ectect. People take this game more seriously than others. There's no answer to sabo no solution for it u just blame first person that comes to mind.

As far as prime being admin n in control blahblah he deserves a medal for putting up with half of you cuz realy half of you are just too much. Prime does great with scoring. Never seen him judge. Not saying this cuz he's my friend he is doing a great job and if zcl didn't exist zc would be significantly more shitty. The problem is. NOBODY admits defeat. Ic games where Terran base holding on by few buildings and arguments are made for against it. Another thing. People are pulling, alot of games drop so there's more judging. In zct I don't remember judging many games. I see law bitch bout a game every 2 days. If it was up to me. Jc/law would never be allowed anywhere cuz to annoying. Brat is fine sometimes but sabos alot. U give me reasons to sabo u i won't try as hard sry but it's the truth. I would NOT put my time in for half of u so everyone should be happy for what prime has done. Love or hate prime I'd say it for whomever. Just nobody did what he did so... Play the game as it is u only have a number of people who play 1 or 2 will usually ruin the game but doesn't necessarily make it anyone's fault and primes last one to play. Zct ppl were more mature less annoying better and was more fun to play with I think. That's why judging wasn't much of a problem. Most the better ppl stop playing much and although several rly good ppl like tech kyo lisa and other I forget got rly good. Alot of ppl got mad and just annoying as hell. Would be a little until sc is rly fun with less problems imo. Need better more people. No alcohols no annoying people. Admins doing better than that thought would especially dealing without they are dealing with

Don't let yan win pls.. !!!

Despite getting sabo'd by this clown countless times I still won the season. Also ur terran was overrated as fuck.

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