Future of ZCL

[Admin]

Seeing how no games have been played for the past several days, I just wanted to see what the general opinion is and if continuing is worth the time.

[thunder]

lot of smurf games past few days dw.

[Tr0uble]

Don't sugar coat it please, after I took a week off, we played like 4-5 games in a row. No one wanted to report the games b/c the unanimous decision was that no wanted to participate in it. The general perception I get from everyone is that they're not happy with the admins, the way this site is run or the way this league is run. And a lot of people have moved to SC2.

[Admin]

rofl if you're referring to the posting bans on falcon and brat, they were only for last month. falcon was allowed to continue his bm rage posts for awhile. i just asked that he post that in some other section other than "sc discussion". he then accused me of deleting his previous thread and continued with his bm of me. therefore i banned him from posting the rest of the month. brat was given multiple warnings about false reporting. so many times that many people were complaining about us not reinforcing our rules about banning false reporters. she then reported a game with smurfs. wtf? therefore she was banned from posting the rest of the month. they were only banned from POSTING not playing. people get less ignorant please

[law[bf]]

Im agree with negro

I know that ppl r complaing about zcl, but If they revive zct should be the same shit.

ZCT died cuz admins went afk, inactive, pasive or w.e, they could upload the website if they rlly wanted... I voted yes, cuz the activitiy grew up.

So yeah, new admins, or apply a new manage. It was kinda pathetic the bm/tears between  admins, or waiting like 10 fake/wrong reports from brat. Actually u didnt post the brat new status, bad manage again.

Greetings

[Admin]

why would i post the status for falcon and brat? they were only banned from posting. they were sent private notifications for when they were banned and when they were unbanned.
i've also said a thousand times, if there is a dispute over a game private message me. i only glance over reports until i actually update the standings. but i read pm's whenever i get them.

[law[bf]]

- False reporters will be banned for a minimum of one season.

I didnt know that brat was banned. Then brat told me, that she was banned

At the end of the season I didnt know that brat was banned only from posting.

So i didnt report any games with brat.

To fix a false report took me like 2 days and spaming 3 admins, showing rep.

Nobody cared anymore about reporting after the websit went down, and admins started arguing, threathing to finish/close/sabo/delete the league... would pointless play  it

This isnt against u myst, i have the others 2 admins in my f list, but im honest i think they r doing bad.

Andy played like 10 innys already, he could help reporting his aka, or make ppl playing zcl.

Greetings

[Admin]

yeah well with the reports and all. i asked liquid and thunder to help out with the reports and stuff. even before liquid went emo. no help. i was basically doing everything and i have other stuff im busy with.
and about brat. she reported with regular names. the people just didnt post their aka's. and when i saw rep and it had smurfs she was banned from posting. i dont think she was trying to false report on purpose. she was also given a notification that said she was banned from POSTING. if she said she was banned from playing lol@her

[Tr0uble]

rofl if you're referring to the posting bans on falcon and brat, they were only for last month. falcon was allowed to continue his bm rage posts for awhile. i just asked that he post that in some other section other than "sc discussion". he then accused me of deleting his previous thread and continued with his bm of me. therefore i banned him from posting the rest of the month. brat was given multiple warnings about false reporting. so many times that many people were complaining about us not reinforcing our rules about banning false reporters. she then reported a game with smurfs. wtf? therefore she was banned from posting the rest of the month. they were only banned from POSTING not playing. people get less ignorant please

Honestly, I meant nothing by Falcon being banned. I like Falcon and all, but yes, you warned him and he continued. Arie did the same thing and he had it coming that time too.

yeah well with the reports and all. i asked liquid and thunder to help out with the reports and stuff. even before liquid went emo. no help. i was basically doing everything and i have other stuff im busy with.
and about brat. she reported with regular names. the people just didnt post their aka's. and when i saw rep and it had smurfs she was banned from posting. i dont think she was trying to false report on purpose. she was also given a notification that said she was banned from POSTING. if she said she was banned from playing lol@her

People didn't post aka's b/c they didn't want it to be ZCL. Brat knew this and still reported. She knew she was false reporting b/c she was told by everyone in each game she can't do that and she said "idc" each time. I think it's bad that it took her 3 times to false report before anything got done.

And you're right, Liquid and Thunder haven't done much. Each time she false reported, I told each of them and they just kinda blew it off and Liquid told me something to the effect of "if you don't have proof, then I can't do anything" even when 4 other people in the game told him it wasn't ZCL, because I forgot to use Chaos a few times, so I didn't have every single rep to prove her wrong.

You need to make Law an admin imo. Besides Thunder & Brat, he's most active player.

[law[bf]]

Being serious i wont be admin. I think admins r confusing the rols, trying to be cool with everyone, sucking balls....

Try get negro or sae, even the little scott, etc ppl respect them and they got exp managing... I guess they wont, but w.e

[surya]

Hire scott and problem solved. he was fair in zct and hes actually very mature, at his age i wanted to be a ninja.

[Tr0uble]

I'll never do it again. I was the only active mod towards the end of ZCT and b/c I was the only active, I had to make almost all the decisions myself and when someone didn't like it, they cried; aka Falcon

<3 you tho Sham.

People were ungrateful to how much work went into ZCT, I'll never do it again. Just remember, I think making anyone admin from ZCT would be a problem. . .they were all inactive and didn't do much. GN ran the bot, but no one else really did anything.

[CoR[BF]]

Wow, i know i took a break for a while, but since coming back ZCT was done and ZCL took over, the trends that i have been seeing is that, ZCT had more participation during the Summer Season, when school is out.

1. Issue #1 I see that admins are biased unbiased during the season and lack of support from other admins.

2. Issue #2 Lack of participation from ZC players.

My recommendation, continue ZCL or ZCT only during the Summer season, Winter and Spring break.

- A more condensed season
-more ZC players are able to participate
- Admins are not burdened the task of a continues season.

[pacman]

i think scott/sae/quin one of them three should be admin ...
but i bet neither of them wont do it seeing how quinn already said he wont in his previous post .. butt i thank all the admins from ZCL and ZCT for doing what have done for us all from scoring//watching reps & putting up with people crying and ish.... BUT if ZCL does continue admins better come together kiss and make up (liquid and mystery) or ZCL is gonna die withing the next 2weeks

[CoR[BF]]

I second that notion, concurr with PAC