11/24 - New update to rules: Players may not build more than six creep colonies, which may be morphed into sunken or spore colonies.
Two changes to scoring:
1. To make my life easier and due to the huge drop in activity, scoring will be based solely on player ratings. Average game score will be replacing ladder score. Minimum games played to qualify will be total games played divided by total number of players that participated in that season. Scoring increments will remain the same making it possible to end with a negative score.
2. Wins against dodges will be scored the same as MM rushes - 50% of a normal win. Losses from dodges will remain the same.
Athena[BF] aka Nikita[BF] has been added as a League Admin
Season 6 will be extended til the end of APRIL.
Please continue reporting games.
Thanks,
ZCL Staff
NEW RULE ON MM RUSHING
MM Rushing
- MM Rushing is allowed, but will receive 50% points of full win.
- MM rush grace period of 60-90 seconds
ex) MM 830, anytime between 930-1000 is considered MM RUSH
- Any controlled attack of 10units per team member rushing in the middle before 60 seconds is a disqualification.
- Any controlled attack of 10units per team member rushing in the middle inbetween 60-90 seconds is considered a MM Rush.
- Any controlled attack of 10units per team member rushing in the middle after the grace period is considered a full game loss/win.
This new rule/update will apply at the start of season 9.
ZCL9 scoring system will continue on as the one in season 6. New player ratings will be updated accordingly.
As added bonus for season 9:
200% pts if you can beat admins: Pr1me[FDU] Demure[ggee] Mystery]to[
50pts extra for beating enemy rate of 8.5 or higher
Clan war games 200% pts win/loss, sign up new clan on clan page.
Scoring on Dodges
200% for loss
50% for Win
No limit per season of how many dodges you can use per season but it will hurt you undoubtly.
Change in scoring
Starting from season 10, I will be adding scoring bonuses as followed:
Dodges count for 200%, wins off dodge 50%
75pts bonus for defeating enemy rate of 9 or higher
50pts bonus for defeating enemy rate of 8.5 or higher
25pts bonus for defeating enemy rate of 8.25 or higher
50pts bonus for defending MM rush and winning
200% loss for MM rushing and losing
200% pts bonus if you beat admins
Clan war games 200% pts bonus win/loss; sign up new clan on clan registration thread
I will still continue using our undermining points system found on our scoring page.
SCORING
I will continue to use these determining bonuses for the remainder of ZCL but I will now include the total amount of pts a player has earned during the season on the final standings for players who are curious what their ladder score would be. All you would have to do is use the base 1000 and add the total amount.
Dodges count for 200%, wins off dodge 50%
75pts bonus for defeating enemy rate of 9 or higher
50pts bonus for defeating enemy rate of 8.5 or higher
25pts bonus for defeating enemy rate of 8.25 or higher
50pts bonus for defending MM rush and winning
200% loss for MM rushing and losing
200% pts bonus if you beat admins
Clan war games 200% pts bonus win/loss; sign up new clan on clan registration thread
It will now look like as followed.
(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/7767/zclfinalstandingample.jpg)
NEW SCORING SYSTEM for season 11.
Wins = 3 pts
dodge = 1.5 pts win/ -3pt loss
OPT2 = 1.5pts for win only
MM rushes = 1pt win/ -1pt loss
defend MM rush = 3pts/ -3pts loss for mm rusher
Losses = -1 pt
We will still be using current player rating system but we won't be using the base points.
ex: Killer pr1me surya *beat* athena[bf] hail[fdu] dude[fdu] 12-1 ptz 25mins
top rating = 9.22
bottom rating = 8.61
difference in win = -0.61
top rating = 9.17+9.25+9.25 = 27.67 *2.39 = 66.13 pts gained for win
bottom rating = 7.92+8.5+9.42 = 25.84 * -0.39 = -10.08 pts for loss
if bottom won
ex: athena[bf] hail[fdu] dude[fdu] *beat* Killer pr1me surya 12-1 ptz 25mins
top rating = 8.61
bottom rating = 9.22
difference in win = 0.61
top rating = 7.92+8.5+9.42 = 25.84 * 3.61 = 93.28 pts for win
bottom rating = 9.17+9.25+9.25 = 27.67 *-1.61 = -44.55 pts for loss
DODGES
Killer[BB] *dodge* pain[mb] stronger[bf] ooyl =teams and scared= 12-3
Killer rating = 9.25
bottom rating = 6.78
difference in rating = 2.47
top rating = 9.25 *(3) = 27.75 * (-3+-2.47)-> -5.47 = -151.79 pts for dodge
bottom rating = 6.5+7.25+6.58 = 20.33 *(1.5+2.47)-> 3.97 = 80.71 pts for win off dodge
Quote from: Pr1meIVI on December 01, 2011, 12:09:10 PM
NEW SCORING SYSTEM for season 11.
Wins = 3 pts
dodge = 2 pts win/ -2pt loss
MM rushes = 1pt win
defend MM rush = 3pts
Losses = -1 pt
We will still be using current player rating system but we won't be using the base points.
ex: Killer pr1me surya *beat* athena[bf] hail[fdu] dude[fdu] 12-1 ptz 25mins
top rating = 9.22
bottom rating = 8.61
difference in win = -0.61 > round to -0.5
top rating = 9.17+9.25+9.25 = 27.67 *2.5 = 69.18 pts gained for win
bottom rating = 7.92+8.5+9.42 = 25.84 * -0.5 = -12.92 pts for loss
if bottom won
ex: athena[bf] hail[fdu] dude[fdu] *beat* Killer pr1me surya 12-1 ptz 25mins
top rating = 8.61
bottom rating = 9.22
difference in win = 0.61 > round to 0.5
top rating = 7.92+8.5+9.42 = 25.84 * 3.5 = 90.44 pts for win
bottom rating = 9.17+9.25+9.25 = 27.67 *-1.5 = -41.51 pts for loss
I just want to make sure I am understanding this right...
X=...
Wins = 3 pts
+ Ddodge = 2 pts win/ -2pt loss
+ DMM rushes = 1pt win
+ Ddefend MM rush = 3pts
+ DLosses = -1 pt
+ Dwhere D = the difference in team rating for a given matchup, which is calculated by finding the avg player rating for that team?
you then use X as a multiplicative variable to figure out the amount of points gained or lost as a result of the matchup? So... in mathematical terms:
Total Points = (P1 + P2 + P3) * X
Again.... I THINK that is what you are stating the scoring system is... which makes sense... I was just trying to wrap my head around it and put it into terms that I could understand. Let me know if I fucked it up :P
Btw... I like it. It makes the currency be rating... my only question is... Will ratings be updated throughout the season (dynamic) as a person (and other ppl) get better? And how does that work? Or will it be so that once a season starts, everyone is stuck with whatever ratings they start with (static)? If they end up being dynamic, what controls a person's rating throughout the season?
Hello Everyone,
Hope everyone had a good christmas weekend.
I just wanted to inform everyone, after working with the new system with mast-i-kater and arie, we noticed that there were still some faults with my player rating system.
1) Players do not consistently play at given player rating
2) A static player rating is inaccurate as low rated players can be doing exceptionally well while high rated players can play exceptionally bad.
3) Dodge reports: a low rated player dodging high rated players gives the high rated players negative points while the low rated rarely loses any points thus making it unfair for dodges to anyone
Right now, someone is helping me with a new scoring system where players player rating is determined as to how well they are currently player and are not at a static player rating but rather dynamic. Meaning, if you are playing well, you will be given a high player rating but if u are playing bad, on a losing streak, then you will be given a lower player rating. No one's player rating remains the same. This is going to be a ladder system.
More updates to follow, these changes will be towards season 11 and on going.
Player ratings given will be used to determine ally/enemy differential only.
Thanks for understanding.
Jay
Trouble has been appointed a JUDGE for ZCL.
Following judges are as followed:
Pr1me[FDU]
Thunder[FDU]
Tr0uble
Starting today, excluding the dodges given today, there will be a dodge limit of 5 per season.
Any player who exceeds dodging limit past 5 will be banned for the remainder of the season.
PLEASE AWAIT THE CHANGES ON THE RULES PAGES.
THERE SEEMS TO BE MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE WORDING ACCORDING TO THE RULES.
PLEASE BE ADVISED AS ZCL HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 12 SEASONS YET IT WASN'T BROUGHT TO ATTENTION TIL NOW.
AS OF NOW, ANY UNIT THAT CROSSES TO YOUR SIDE IS ALLOWED TO BE KILLED. THAT MEANS IF AN ENEMY OVERLORD CROSSES TO YOUR TEAMS SIDE BEFORE MM, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO KILL IT. ATTACKING UNITS MAY NOT CROSS SIDES OR MID BEFORE +1. RESULTS OF PAST GAMES CONCERNING THESE RULES WILL NOT CHANGE. AND STOP TRYING TO GET AROUND THE RULES.
Dodges vs full wins: At what point in tha game when a player leaves is counted as a dodge?, meaning if the game is already 15min into it and so forth, and the person leaves is it a considered a dodge for that player that left or full win for an opposing team. Is there a set-time limit to be considered a dodge when a player leaves? Should there be one? just a thought
Quote from: CoR[BF] on January 11, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
Dodges vs full wins: At what point in tha game when a player leaves is counted as a dodge?, meaning if the game is already 15min into it and so forth, and the person leaves is it a considered a dodge for that player that left or full win for an opposing team. Is there a set-time limit to be considered a dodge when a player leaves? Should there be one? just a thought
Can't have a time limit b/c every game different. Just get rep judged.
Due to admin's being busy this month and majority of april with other personal reason's, Season 14 will be extended til end of April.
LOL at killing his own league and then ->"taking a break"<- LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
But since im too cool ill give u some tips, stop banning ppl of site/channel/games and stop talking shit ^^ zcl is more than tanka killer asil looose trouble, respect everyone of our league =) even ewie !
Greetings
*edit-->asign a new admin since u guys are "busy", hopefully not a friend (but i doubt it)
Quote from: law[bf] on March 02, 2012, 08:42:06 AM
LOL at killing his own league and then ->"taking a break"<- LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
But since im too cool ill give u some tips, stop banning ppl of site/channel/games and stop talking shit ^^ zcl is more than tanka killer asil looose trouble, respect everyone of our league =) even ewie !
Greetings
*edit-->asign a new admin since u guys are "busy", hopefully not a friend (but i doubt it)
Unlike you who spends countless hours under mom's basement with family glaring at computer screen, waiting for ooyl, stronger, ewie, and co. to play a starcraft game, the admin's have other things to do like work and go to school. I would appoint 3oo admin since big black guy who looks like terry cruz but hes getting old. Again this isn't your league, still waiting for you to create your own. GL HF
EDIT: and there hasn't been a problem since you've been gone which says alot about this league's players and how they comply.
3oo is more of a michael jackson kind of black guy
Quote from: law[bf] on March 02, 2012, 08:42:06 AM
LOL at killing his own league and then ->"taking a break"<- LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
But since im too cool ill give u some tips, stop banning ppl of site/channel/games and stop talking shit ^^ zcl is more than tanka killer asil looose trouble, respect everyone of our league =) even ewie !
Greetings
*edit-->asign a new admin since u guys are "busy", hopefully not a friend (but i doubt it)
Not everyone has time to sit in their cave (aka mom's basement) and devote every waking moment to a 14 yr old computer game like you.
And activity the past week has slowed down, control your e-hormones ffs.
GREETINGS
Raking in the Bling Bling!!!!!
NO DS ?
Quote from: Ah-Lee on March 02, 2012, 03:17:54 PM
NO DS ?
We are working on it, but I don't really see a point in reporting games yet because Jay is gonna be busy, like he said. I guess we could do an extended season, have the first season go from 3/1 to 4/30.
hmm i would volunteer to do the DS if you guys want (prob dont since im immature) but i have the time for ds. just a thought because since jay will be busy... it will be hard work for him counting games for two months!
Quote from: Ah-Lee on March 02, 2012, 04:21:21 PM
hmm i would volunteer to do the DS if you guys want (prob dont since im immature) but i have the time for ds. just a thought because since jay will be busy... it will be hard work for him counting games for two months!
If Jay wants/needs help.
im down to help :)
Quote from: Ah-Lee on March 02, 2012, 04:21:21 PM
hmm i would volunteer to do the DS if you guys want (prob dont since im immature) but i have the time for ds. just a thought because since jay will be busy... it will be hard work for him counting games for two months!
You may not be immature due to the fact that you admit that you are immature. Perhaps you could borrow some meds from jc, that would help a bunch.
Greetings
lets DS
-__________-
MY T is unmatched!! COME AT ME BRO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO FACE DADDY AT DS!!
Our military is full of ppl like cor. Good work.
JC is smart
extended til end of MAY
thanks.
and when may comes... extended to June?
Quote from: Ah-Lee on April 29, 2012, 10:37:28 AM
and when may comes... extended to June?
Why do you still post here?
Quote from: Tr0uble on April 29, 2012, 10:54:25 AM
Quote from: Ah-Lee on April 29, 2012, 10:37:28 AM
and when may comes... extended to June?
Why do you still post here?
cant ask her that. talking to brat is like takling to a stone wall
nice analogy confucius
brat is awesome real talk :-*
brat is a stuuupid bitch LIVEWIRE
Nice
Do you guys think activity will pick up? I'm all done with exams next week, so I was just wondering...
I don't know. Sc has been dead for a while. Even during breaks last summer wasn't too active. As long as 3oomb stays away I happy. I don't think sc will ever be rly active again like it used to be. But maybe some might come back. Yan plays still. Where he belongs tho in pubs. #diablothreeforreal #troublecannothandleistoowoman
Quote from: killer on May 04, 2012, 01:41:18 AM
I don't know. Sc has been dead for a while. Even during breaks last summer wasn't too active. As long as 3oomb stays away I happy. I don't think sc will ever be rly active again like it used to be. But maybe some might come back. Yan plays still. Where he belongs tho in pubs. #diablothreeforreal #troublecannothandleistoowoman
LOL!
D3 will take me away. Before i played beta it looked pretty dumb, but they opened beta last weekend and i enjoyed it. rip SC
only log on to play DS.
Quote from: killer on May 04, 2012, 01:41:18 AM
I don't know. Sc has been dead for a while. Even during breaks last summer wasn't too active. As long as 3oomb stays away I happy. I don't think sc will ever be rly active again like it used to be. But maybe some might come back. Yan plays still. Where he belongs tho in pubs. #diablothreeforreal #troublecannothandleistoowoman
BITCH NIGGAS WILL ALLWAYS HAAAAAAATE
i host -=3x3ZcNrMmPuBs=- for u son!! join game asap LOL
Hey admins, gaymer aka logged wants to talk to you guys.
Greetings =)
tell him to register and post a thread
Starting now, please make sure ALL games reported are in P T Z / P Z P order and specify. A change in the standings are going to happen.
Future standings will now include player's games played per race and win % per race.
All games not reported correctly will result in false reporting and game may be voided/nulled.
Quote from: Pr1meIVI on February 26, 2013, 10:35:33 AM
Starting now, please make sure ALL games reported are in P T Z order. A change in the standings are going to happen.
Future standings will now include player's games played per race and win % per race.
All games not reported correctly will result in false reporting and game may be voided/nulled.
Nice ^_^ u are the best!
Athena[BF] is now being tried out as a judge. She will be going through a trial period until further notice. If you have any game disputes, you may have her judge the game.
Also if you do not know yet, the rules on mid defense have been clarified.
Middle Defense Limits
- There can be no more than 3 Hatcheries, which may be morphed into Lairs and then Hives, in the middle.
- Players may not build more than six creep colonies, which may be morphed into sunken or spore colonies.
- Turrets and cannons may be built in the middle.
- Buildings not included in the above are not permitted and must be destroyed immediately if constructed.
Does that mean pylons are allowed as well or we gotta kill them after we make cannons lols
Quote from: WoLF on March 11, 2013, 08:45:21 AM
Does that mean pylons are allowed as well or we gotta kill them after we make cannons lols
I think cannons include pylons wolf lol
Quote from: Admin on March 10, 2013, 07:44:28 PM
Athena[BF] is now being tried out as a judge. She will be going through a trial period until further notice. If you have any game disputes, you may have her judge the game.
Also if you do not know yet, the rules on mid defense have been clarified.
Middle Defense Limits
- There can be no more than 3 Hatcheries, which may be morphed into Lairs and then Hives, in the middle.
- Players may not build more than six creep colonies, which may be morphed into sunken or spore colonies.
- Turrets and cannons may be built in the middle.
- Buildings not included in the above are not permitted and must be destroyed immediately if constructed.
"Middle" Must defined : what if i want to build a tall and skinny base
parameters of zerg overlord safe zone also need to be defined
also can terran buildings be floating in mid
quite the compliment to my terran dominance; rules implemented to limit me
Ps this is a faggy time rule
overlord safe zone is already in the rules. deep part of their base.
and it says buildings not included not permitted. so no floating or landed if not included
"deep" and "middle" are subjective
Quote from: ATETANKA on March 11, 2013, 12:25:55 PM
"deep" and "middle" are subjective
Gabe outlined the "safe zone" once. Basically any overlords past main def. cannot be hunted.
Let's say middle = no buildings on or floating above the creep from Z def.
Quote from: ATETANKA on March 11, 2013, 12:25:55 PM
"deep" and "middle" are subjective
Can someone upload or create print screen images so we can be specific of the "DEEP ZONE" and "MIDDLE".
It will be clarified since we don't have the images from gabe anymore so people stop nitpicking at rules for the 897129837132 time.
(http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y376/Hikkon/fgh.jpg)
Any overlords behind the main def is considered deep. This obviously extends all the way to the end of the map and/or the wall. W/e you want to call it.
Middle = Anywhere on the creep. You cannot have buildings floating on, over, or ahead of (close side of the statue) the creep. You can do w/e you want with buildings AFTER the creep, ie if you're on bottom, they have to be under the creep; if you're on top they have to be above the creep.
If you really need a pic for this pls post you want a pic and I'll do it.
oh no this just simply cannot do. i dont understand. need more pictures. atleast 3 more. about time this guy does something. earn ur paycheck. need to be as specific as possible in case i kill one of kyungs overlords he might leave and give me dq. i want more pics gogo tr0uble get to work bitch
Quote from: killer on March 12, 2013, 01:35:09 AM
oh no this just simply cannot do. i dont understand. need more pictures. atleast 3 more. about time this guy does something. earn ur paycheck. need to be as specific as possible in case i kill one of kyungs overlords he might leave and give me dq. i want more pics gogo tr0uble get to work bitch
HOW BOUT A PIC OF SUMFING YOU NEVA GUNA GET?
SUP BITCH???
(http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y376/Hikkon/chest.jpg)
LMFAO !!!!
About middle defense, does it matter WHERE the zerg starts hatching (ie hatching as far up as the statue)?
Quote from: arie on March 12, 2013, 08:36:05 AM
About middle defense, does it matter WHERE the zerg starts hatching (ie hatching as far up as the statue)?
Zerg can hatch anywhere they want. Only placement limitation is on Terran buildings and Toss buildings NOT including pylons, cannons, and turrets.
STARTING SEASON 22, RULES HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND REVISED TO BE PRECISE WITH ONGOING INQUIRIES.
Revised and added rules:
Rules:
- Games must be decided if PTZ/PZP during melee and ums will be decided upon melee decision
Smurfing:
- No player may create an aka/alias that contains another player's log in account on the zcleague forum
Tripling:
- Tripling does INCLUDE a nydus if all 3 players attack same opposing player
ex) 2 opposing players attack from wall while the 3rd teamate nydus same player being attacked by teamates
- Tripling is considered if more than 6 attacking units and/or 3 magic units are being used for the tripling attack
- magic units include: science vessels, high templars, arbs, defilers, queens
MM Rushing:
- Opposing team is allowed to kill any unit as long as it is on their side prior to MM
- Clearing sides after MM is allowed as long as the units does not go past the wall edge of the opposing sides before MM+1
- if any unit attacking beyond the middle statue will be considered a DQ
Bombing:
- If a player's "idle unit(s)" bomb(s) supply depots, pylons, or tech, pause the game and inform the other team. The accused player or someone on their team must kill the equivalent amount of units/structures in their own base to even it out. For example: If a player accidentally leaves 6 idle wraiths in an enemies base resulting in the razing of 4 supply depots, the affected team must pause the game and inform the other team of what happened and must destroy the same amount of buildings which are 4 supply depots, nothing more, nothing less. If there is any dispute with this, complete the game, save it, and then report it to a League Admin.
Overlord Hunting:
- Image below is the safe zone which extends to the far right wall and up to the left hatchery
(http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y376/Hikkon/fgh.jpg)
Reporting Games
- All reports must be posted on the forums in the following format:
Player 1, 2, 3 BEAT/MM RUSH Player 4, 5, 6 (DATE) (GAME LENGTH) (RACE ORDER)
Player DODGES Player 4,5,6 (DATE) (REASON).
Disconnects
- If the player that disconnects doesn't return within 5 minutes of remaking the game but does notify any of the players of its absence, a dodge may NOT be given.
- If the player that disconnects doesn't return within 5 minutes but notifies the players within 5minutes via: text/shoutbox/stealthbot or any means of communication, then the game may be judged if not saved with the following options:
- If the game disconnects and all players do return within 5 minutes, a decision must be made within 5minutes
1) Op2 - if 2/3 players of the opposing team admits or if a judge provides result
2) Win/Loss - Clear winner or losers (depending on the position of the game; players; economy; etc)
3) Void game - No clear winner or any evidence a winnier/loser can be provided
4) Dodge - If the player who disconnected doesn't have the stability to continue in the game resulting a 2v3
Lag
- If a player lags in melee, the game is voided with 5/6 players voting to discontinue
- If a player continuously lags in ums gameplay after a melee has been done with teams determined, 4/6 players must vote to decide an outcome otherwise the game can be subjected to a decision from an admin/judge.
- If a player's lag is a continuous problem for 3 consecutive games, that player may be subject to withdrawing from the league until its been fixed.
- In the event if players are voting to play WITH lag, they may be subjected to have their votes revoked and the voting total and decision reduced by 1.
All existing rules are BOLD and changes are in ITALIC.
what if the p recalls from the wall, the other p or the t comes thru mid and the z nyduses?
can u attack with probes/scvs premm+1? all shai dorsai jokes aside, i think this should be outlawed. I sometimes lose my fucking valuable drones to this.
and another thing. some terrans still float/land factories in the zerg mid creep.
Quote from: johnNYCage on March 25, 2013, 09:37:12 AM
and another thing. some terrans still float/land factories in the zerg mid creep.
PAuse the game and tell them to move. Not a difficult solution.
Season 23 will extend til end of August.
LOL