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Title: Law's Speech
Post by: johnNYCage on January 18, 2012, 02:58:21 PM
Dear ZCL Community:

First of all, Greetings to everyone!!
You guys alreay know that the dictator Pr1me and his colleague Trouble decided to ban me, "because i abused the rules".  I'll tell you guys what is an abuse: changing the rules so someone doesn't win, changes to the score system to let certain players win, manipulating the rules and their interpretations. But did i abuse? Did i benefit from my reports? Nope, i didnt. Did Pr1me benefit? Yes. There is no supervision and control in his dictatorship. So... why im I banned? Well its really to explain, when people dont have any argument or ideas, they resort to insults and finally if it doesnt work, people like pr1me resort to force: banning people that dont think like him. I'll tell you Pr1me banning me WONT RESOLVE YOUR PROBLEM.

Even more... Pr1me has unpaused, also trouble, ryu, jc, stronger, tapsilog even maxine did it once, everyone! Yesterday i proved my point and i got banned. Ryu unpaused because i was chatting in game. One week ago, I unpaused a game because Megix was chatting.

Another example in the thread "shins the new pr1me", he says 2 mains with full bases never is dodge, one day after he says full win and judged himself and removed the dodge without asking everyone.

Then people like arie/killer/trouble (zct's budddies) "stfu pr1me does a lot in zcl, he makes standings!". Yes he does, more Zcl is more than "standings", anyone can do that, if it wasnt pr1me it could be me or any of us. Back then zct (in its prime) had like 6 or more admins and rules were stable. Pr1me im here to say to you, THIS IS NOT YOUR LEAGUE, IT DOESNT BELONGS TO U. ZC and ZCL is part OF ALL  US ARE PART OF ZC/ZCL!

There is a lot of hypocrisy... but we can say about a backstabber? Right Pr1me? Have you ever told to maxine/tech/kyo/or w.e what do you think? "kyo is trash, so overrated" "Lol i got maxine she is so fcking bad" "imnt playing with her she too low, lets wait for a real game". etc. Yep im emo, but everyone knows what i really think about all of you guys. Did pr1me say once: "Sorry, im wrong"? "I shouldnt be able to judge games because i play the same game/league. Did players like trouble get a dq once? Or killer? Or Arie? Just coincidence? Let's try to make this league better fellows! More fun and less stupid rule applications! 1 hatch more=dq when it was a mistake seriously? 1 unpause mistake= dq seriously? if some1 goes  2seconds earlier than mm+1=dq ??? Real life doesnt work like that, i study laws fellows and i can tell you guys, the judgment is horrible, so many contradictions!

This is not for me, this for ZC players for out League! Even more! I'll stop playing once we have decent and impartial admins, come on people compare other leagues...its so different.. DEAL?

Gandhi said once: "It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err".

The Paceful revolution has begun!

Greetings
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: StronGer on January 18, 2012, 03:16:35 PM
Prime, there is some truth in this novel..
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: Pr1meIVI on January 18, 2012, 03:19:27 PM
LOL tastiest tears I've ever tasted yum yum.

On serious note, like I said, if u don't like the league, don't participate and create your own.
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: StronGer on January 18, 2012, 03:21:45 PM
sorry law
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: CoR[BF] on January 18, 2012, 03:25:57 PM
Wow and the drama continues!!! nice speech btw JC, good job on quoting Ghandi!!

greetings
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: Pr1meIVI on January 18, 2012, 03:31:17 PM
Oh and btw, JC, that speech seems to be only regarded to Law.

No one else has a problem.
If they have a problem, they ask me.
If they have a problem with me, they ask myst/trouble or other zc players.

Again, I suggest you create your own league and handle your business elsewhere.  I'd like to see you create a league based on your vision.

Good luck and best in the future, you can stay banned until you request to comeback after the seasons over  and participate within the rules you are fighting against.
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: Tr0uble on January 18, 2012, 03:43:27 PM
Quote from: johnNYCage on January 18, 2012, 02:58:21 PM
Dear ZCL Community:

First of all, Greetings to everyone!!
You guys alreay know that the dictator Pr1me and his colleague Trouble decided to ban me, "because i abused the rules".  I'll tell you guys what is an abuse: changing the rules so someone doesn't win, changes to the score system to let certain players win, manipulating the rules and their interpretations. But did i abuse? Did i benefit from my reports? Nope, i didnt. Did Pr1me benefit? Yes. There is no supervision and control in his dictatorship. So... why im I banned? Well its really to explain, when people dont have any argument or ideas, they resort to insults and finally if it doesnt work, people like pr1me resort to force: banning people that dont think like him. I'll tell you Pr1me banning me WONT RESOLVE YOUR PROBLEM.

I'd like to know how pr1me has benefited at all? The scoring system needed to be changed. Arie and I told Myst this at the creation of ZCL, you are a nobody to think YOU started the discussion. I think it's hilarious how you think Pr1me is the end all and be all of decisions. Threads are made in admin boards and voted on by Judges/Admins/Moderators.

Even more... Pr1me has unpaused, also trouble, ryu, jc, stronger, tapsilog even maxine did it once, everyone! Yesterday i proved my point and i got banned. Ryu unpaused because i was chatting in game. One week ago, I unpaused a game because Megix was chatting.

I haven't done that, sorry. If you see a player doing, you should report it. We cannot hold your hand and ask you after every game "is everything ok, baby?" Ryu got the same punishment as you did: Dodge. How is the outcome any different from when you did the exact same thing? You proved nothing. You fail. You are still 100% wrong.

Another example in the thread "shins the new pr1me", he says 2 mains with full bases never is dodge, one day after he says full win and judged himself and removed the dodge without asking everyone.

Then people like arie/killer/trouble (zct's budddies) "stfu pr1me does a lot in zcl, he makes standings!". Yes he does, more Zcl is more than "standings", anyone can do that, if it wasnt pr1me it could be me or any of us. Back then zct (in its prime) had like 6 or more admins and rules were stable. Pr1me im here to say to you, THIS IS NOT YOUR LEAGUE, IT DOESNT BELONGS TO U. ZC and ZCL is part OF ALL  US ARE PART OF ZC/ZCL!

He has never said it's his league. His actions do not imply it either. Everyone is treated the same as admins/judges. If I break a rule, I expect to get the proper punishment. You are upset b/c you have been weighed. Measured. And deemed unfit through your failures.

There is a lot of hypocrisy... but we can say about a backstabber? Right Pr1me? Have you ever told to maxine/tech/kyo/or w.e what do you think? "kyo is trash, so overrated" "Lol i got maxine she is so fcking bad" "imnt playing with her she too low, lets wait for a real game". etc. Yep im emo, but everyone knows what i really think about all of you guys. Did pr1me say once: "Sorry, im wrong"? "I shouldnt be able to judge games because i play the same game/league. Did players like trouble get a dq once? Or killer? Or Arie? Just coincidence? Let's try to make this league better fellows! More fun and less stupid rule applications! 1 hatch more=dq when it was a mistake seriously? 1 unpause mistake= dq seriously? if some1 goes  2seconds earlier than mm+1=dq ??? Real life doesnt work like that, i study laws fellows and i can tell you guys, the judgment is horrible, so many contradictions!

You say the exact same shit about Kyo/Tech/Maxine. You are the most emo, hypocritical douche ever to grace Battle.net. Judging games b/c playing in the same league? You serious kid? Stop being stupid, what you just said was "people who compete in ZCL cannot judge games". FALSE. People cannot judges games that they are involved in. I have yet to see this happen, please feel free to point me in the appropriate direction. Don't want a dodge? Follow the rules. Buildings hatches is easy: Make a 9x5 Base and you're good to go. Doesn't get much easier than that. With 97% of people using Chaos/ADV there is no excuse to NOT know when you're allowed to attack. No excuse. We have the tools, if you choose/don't want to utilize them, then it's on you to follow the rules to the fullest extent.

This is not for me, this for ZC players for out League! Even more! I'll stop playing once we have decent and impartial admins, come on people compare other leagues...its so different.. DEAL?

Admins are fine as is. You are the only person who continually cries. Like Pr1me offers: head to Op ClanGOAS. You are not wanted.

Gandhi said once: "It is unwise to be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err".

Bullet Tooth Tony once said: "Never understimate the predictability of stupidity."

The Paceful revolution has begun!

Greetings

Dear Retard,

Please read him the red part unde[r]balls
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: johnNYCage on January 18, 2012, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: CoR[BF] on January 18, 2012, 03:25:57 PM
Wow and the drama continues!!! nice speech btw JC, good job on quoting Ghandi!!

greetings

wake up.  i didnt write it. 
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: StronGer on January 18, 2012, 04:42:41 PM
LMFAO @ Op clanGoas
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: GN[FDU] on January 18, 2012, 07:25:01 PM
And there's why I have always hated Law with a passion. Kid's a complete joke.
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: maxine on January 19, 2012, 05:52:30 AM
why was my name dragged into this issue? LOL! :) I know i'm bad and slow. I can take those criticisms. :)
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: Psilocin on January 19, 2012, 11:57:34 AM
I don't game much so I don't pretend to know or care about all the zcl drama. However, any idiot can see that the league would be nothing without admins like Pr1me or Tr0uble (no slurp intended) keeping an eye on you heathens. If anyone feels targeted it's only because you are constantly deserving of it. Grow up and play respectfully and you won't have any issues with the admins. Be thankful that there is a league...

Enjoy what's left of Starcraft... :/
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: ALKN on January 19, 2012, 02:05:04 PM
Quote from: Psilocin on January 19, 2012, 11:57:34 AM
I don't game much so I don't pretend to know or care about all the zcl drama. However, any idiot can see that the league would be nothing without admins like Pr1me or Tr0uble (no slurp intended) keeping an eye on you heathens. If anyone feels targeted it's only because you are constantly deserving of it. Grow up and play respectfully and you won't have any issues with the admins. Be thankful that there is a league...

Enjoy what's left of Starcraft... :/

sup roy
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: Psilocin on January 21, 2012, 07:40:00 AM
hey eric
miss you brah
Title: Re: Law's Speech
Post by: CoR[BF] on February 01, 2012, 06:58:34 PM
concur
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